I've been testing a Milk-V Jupiter this week, and have tested a number of other RISC-V development boards over the past two years.
As with any new CPU architecture, software support and ease of adoption are extremely important if you want to reach a wider audience. I wouldn't expect every developer and SBC hobbyist to be able to compile the Linux kernel, and the need to compile much of anything these days is getting rare. So having any instance where one has to know how to tweak a Makefile or pass in different flags to a compiler is a bit of a turn-off for platform adoption.
So one thing I've followed closely is how easy it is for me to get my own software running on RISC-V boards. It's one thing to run some vendor-provided demos. It's another entirely to take my real-world applications and infrastructure apps, and get them to work without hassle.
And to that end, Docker and Ansible, two tools I use extensively for dev/ops work, both run stably—though with plenty of caveats since RISC-V is still so new.
I covered how I install Ansible on RISC-V Linux earlier, but today I'll go through my first time testing Docker on the Jupiter (which has an 8-core Spacemit CPU).
Installing Docker
Spacemit seems to have everything under the sun working on their Bianbu Linux distro—and they've been partnering with Ubuntu since earlier this year for well-supported Ubuntu releases as well.
Installing Docker is as easy as:
sudo apt install docker.io
After that, it's just... Docker. So hello-world
works too:
root@milkv-jupiter:~# docker run hello-world
Hello from Docker!
This message shows that your installation appears to be working correctly.
To generate this message, Docker took the following steps:
1. The Docker client contacted the Docker daemon.
2. The Docker daemon pulled the "hello-world" image from the Docker Hub.
(riscv64)
3. The Docker daemon created a new container from that image which runs the
executable that produces the output you are currently reading.
4. The Docker daemon streamed that output to the Docker client, which sent it
to your terminal.
To try something more ambitious, you can run an Ubuntu container with:
$ docker run -it ubuntu bash
Share images, automate workflows, and more with a free Docker ID:
https://hub.docker.com/
For more examples and ideas, visit:
https://docs.docker.com/get-started/
Many base images, like Debian, already provide working riscv64
builds for all their images. But many don't. Like httpd
(Apache) doesn't, so if you try running it or building an image off it, you'll get:
root@milkv-jupiter:~# docker build -t my-apache2 .
DEPRECATED: The legacy builder is deprecated and will be removed in a future release.
Install the buildx component to build images with BuildKit:
https://docs.docker.com/go/buildx/
Sending build context to Docker daemon 165.8MB
Step 1/2 : FROM httpd:2.4
2.4: Pulling from library/httpd
no matching manifest for linux/riscv64 in the manifest list entries
Other images advertise support for riscv64
, but it's not in the main Hub image, it's in a separate image hosted elsewhere (which can sometimes be annoying to track down).
One case is Redis, where the main image lists:
Supported architectures: (more info)
amd64
,arm32v5
,arm32v6
,arm32v7
,arm64v8
,i386
,mips64le
,ppc64le
,riscv64
,s390x
If you click on the link, you'll end up on the riscv64/redis
page, where it says:
Start a redis instance
$ docker run --name some-redis -d riscv64/redis
But running that results in an error:
root@milkv-jupiter:~# docker run --name some-redis -d riscv64/redis
Unable to find image 'riscv64/redis:latest' locally
docker: Error response from daemon: manifest for riscv64/redis:latest not found: manifest unknown: manifest unknown.
See 'docker run --help'.
Indeed, there is no latest
tag on that repo, but rather tons of tags for specific versions. Trying one of those, it does work:
root@milkv-jupiter:~# docker run --name some-redis -d riscv64/redis:7.4-rc-alpine3.20
5d0cb96008de00fea6bc394953fb4a19526921b87f991944a7c894d633c9509e
root@milkv-jupiter:~# docker ps
CONTAINER ID IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTS NAMES
5d0cb96008de riscv64/redis:7.4-rc-alpine3.20 "docker-entrypoint.s…" 25 seconds ago Up 24 seconds 6379/tcp some-redis
root@milkv-jupiter:~# docker exec -it 5d0 redis-cli INFO keyspace
# Keyspace
A couple years ago, RISC-V was in a very rough space, where I would run into crashes, weird boot issues, etc. Today it feels a lot like Arm Linux in 2016 or so... there is some support out there, most things work, but you have to do a lot of manual tweaking to run real-world applications.
It's nearing the threshold where things just work, though, and I think that's key to wider RISC-V adoption. Arm devices really paved the way, here, though. Before the rise in popularity, it was common to have pre-built images and packages for amd64
, but rarely armv6
, armv7
, or arm64
. Now, almost any widely-used project has builds for at least amd64
and arm64
, and once you go from "only 1" to "n+1", the build processes are usually in place to the point adding another "+1" is not that hard.
Especially when vendors are willing to chip in and help, as it seems many of the RISC-V players are doing eagerly right now.
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I mess around with a few arm boards and containers, i mostly settled on using armbian and podman for that, with the same conclusions: it just works, with the caveat that you have to choose wisely the container image if you did not build it yourself (but you should always choose wisely any container image anyway).